In this episode of the Education Matters podcast, Gary Stager shares his insights on education, emphasizing the importance of making learning engaging and meaningful for students. He reflects on his own educational experiences, the influence of music and programming, and the need to reclaim the art of teaching in a system often dominated by rigid pedagogical approaches. Stager discusses the potential impact of AI on education and envisions a future where schools foster creativity and personal expression. He draws parallels between jazz and education, highlighting the value of collaboration and improvisation in the learning process. Ultimately, Stager advocates for a transformative approach to education that prioritizes student agency and joy in learning.