Episode 45 - Mark Pearmain & Michael Stevenson: Education for Human Flourishing

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October 16, 2025

Mark Pearmain & Michael Stevenson: Education for Human Flourishing

Leadership in Education
Educational Innovation
Global Education
Human Flourishing & Education

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In this conversation, Jason Buccheri hosts Michael Stevenson and Mark Pearmain to discuss the evolving landscape of education, focusing on the concept of human flourishing. They explore the importance of redefining educational purposes beyond mere employment, emphasizing the need for a holistic approach that includes emotional, ethical, and social competencies. The discussion also highlights the role of collective efforts in education, the integration of diverse worldviews, and the impact of AI on future learning environments. The speakers share insights on how education systems can adapt to better prepare students for a rapidly changing world, advocating for a collaborative and inclusive approach to learning.
About The Guest

Michael Stevenson

Michael Stevenson is a visionary education leader, driving worldwide innovation in policy and programmes. Working with senior policy makers, thought leaders and experts, he has held international and national roles in education across government, industry and media.

Since 2019, Michael has led the OECD High Performing Systems for Tomorrow initiative, bringing together British Columbia (Canada), Estonia, Finland, Germany, Singapore, Australia and the United Kingdom to co-create new education purposes, policies and practices in an AI world. Developed over a five-year series of international policy dialogues, the Education for human flourishing framework will be published in October 2025. It is already helping shape the future of PISA and influencing policy around the world.

Michael’s focus is now on implementing Education for human flourishing. He will continue to lead the OECD High Performing Systems policy dialogues. He will direct a new Education for human flourishing consultancy, based with Learning Planet Institute. And he will found and lead the Institute of human flourishing at Wellington College in England.

Michael has led education at both Cisco Systems and the BBC. He has also been Director of Strategy, Communications and Technology for the UK Department of Education.
About The Guest

Mark Pearmain

As Superintendent/CEO for the Surrey School District, Mark oversees more than 130 schools, including 105 elementary schools, 21 secondary schools, 5 student learning centres, 3 adult education centres, a distributed/online learning program and numerous inter-agency and satellite programs. Over 80,000 students and 12,000 staff comprise this diverse and highly successful school district with a common vision to prepare our learners to think, creatively and critically, communicate skillfully, and demonstrate care for self and others.

Mark’s core values of respect, integrity, collaboration and communication manifest themselves through a transparent leadership style that empowers others to lead, innovate and attain their full potential. His strong belief in the concept of “challenge up – empower down” has allowed him to work successfully with all stakeholder groups and create a positive organizational culture.
Cold Open – What If Education Isn’t About Productivity?
Host Intro – AI, Automation & The Meaning Of Education
Theme Overview – Reimagining Purpose & Human Flourishing
Summit Mention – Canadian Education Leadership Summit
Guest Check-In – London And Surrey, BC
Michael Stevenson – OECD Role And Vision
Mark Pearmain – Surrey School District Overview
Personal Path – Why Education?
Michael Stevenson – From BBC To OECD And The Ancient-Future Lens
Mark Pearmain – Formative Teachers And Family Influence
Shifts In Education – Post-COVID Perspective & BC’s Competency Curriculum
Global Context – Groundswell For Change And Learning As A Way Of Being
Collaboration – OECD And BC Connection At Whistler
Defining Human Flourishing – Happiness, Meaning, Relationships & Accomplishment
Critique – Education For Employment Vs. Education For Flourishing
Balancing Basics – Foundational Skills Before Flourishing
Individual And Collective Flourishing – Educating Beyond The Self
Schools As Communities – Everyone’s Role In Student Success
Student Voice – Agency In Learning And AI Ethics
Four Worldviews – Indigenous, Pre-Modern, Modern, Post-Modern
Truth & Reconciliation – Embedding Indigenous Perspectives In BC Education
Healing & Acknowledgment – Intergenerational Trauma And Renewal
Five Core Competencies – Ethical Competence And Acting In The World
Adaptive Problem-Solving And Meaning-Making
The Role Of AI – Harnessing Technology Without Losing Agency
Practical Advice – Starting Small And Sustaining Change
Reflections – The Humanistic Thread Of Education

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